i haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
Hey, talking about being a pagan, I'm not confortable with things now because I want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now DF, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them DA-ing so we can share more?
Dad, are you saying you need the elders' permission to share your life with your own son? Are you really looking to other men to decide for who you talk to or not?
And I still stand by what I wrote. Retracting it would make me feel like a hypocrite. I'm sure you raised me to be honest, straight forward and true to my beliefs. So I'm here, open have a proper relationship with my own father. I trust you are open to having a full and proper relationship with your son?
Anyway, afaik retracting the letter won't be enough anyway. You need 'sincere repentance', visiting the meetings for some time and all that. I take it that's a real big NOPE for you.
I just think the figures must be staggering for such a small group of people.
You underestimate just how much children are abused in society as a whole. There is a staggering amount of abuse and abusers everywhere in society. Incidence within JW may or may not be slightly higher than average, we don't know.
Right now your perception is likely skewed because you notice and remember all the JW cases but not the others...
Research in North America has concluded that approximately 15% to 25% of women and 5% to 15% of men were sexually abused when they were children
omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.
I'll tell you what happens: the elders will call the branch office. The branch office then tells them what's written in their official correspondence guidelines.
It says you should dress and act as your biological gender. They leave no room to choose how you identify yourself.
They don't care about your feelings. They are appalled by your 'mutilating' surgery.
Sorry, but you're in for some heartbreaking...
Quote official JW branch correspondence guidelines:
If an individual considers undergoing a sex-change operation basically to bring the appearance of the sex organs into line with what the individuale emotionally and mentally feels himself or herself to be, that one should be advised to live in accord with the biological facts of the situation. (w97 6/15 18-19; w74 6/15 360) Mutilating the sex organs, such as having the male organ surgically removed and an artificial female organ created, does not change the facts or make the person into the opposite sex. Someone desiring to be baptized who has already undergone a mutilating operation of this sort (a transsexual) would be expected to take his or her place in life in accord with what the individual biologically is, not in accord with what the person has been mutilated to appear to be. This may even require that the person leave a “mate” to whom the person is “married,” since the mutilated one is actually (biologically) of the same sex as the “mate.”
An individual who dresses in the clothing of the opposite sex, practicing transvestism, should be helped to see that this is Scripturally condemned and may be related to homosexuality. (Deut.22:5; Ps. 26:4) It is a moral problem for which strong counsel is definitely needed. If the acts of the individual take on a gross aspect because of being publicly displayed, this can be reason for disfellowshipping, since such conduct can be loose, brazen conduct.—Gal. 5:19; w739/15 5746.
i realize that jehovah’s witnesses have been dumbed down for long time now.
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still, i think there must be something that would make them really question their beliefs, even their life.. i think that if witnesses were told they could take blood or that disfellowshipping was unloving, they might stop and take a hard look at everything they have sacrificed their lives for.. i know the organization has muddled these subjects before but the i think even die hard witnesses might start to second guess the governing body..
All of us questioned and got out, didn't we? We aren't Superior to anyone who still is a JW.... we're just in a different life phase and/or lucky that our right buttons were pushed at the right time...
the children of russian jehovah's witnesses face removal from their family if their parents continue to indoctrinate the children and engage them in religious activity.*.
